Dec 23, 2007, 04:18 AM // 04:18
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#21
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Academy Page
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ok rush is junk, im in no hurry to get anywhere
healing breeze is the ONLY thing that keeps me alive cause the stupid healers are always healing dumb mages that think there tanks[and theres always 1 in the party]
isent shock an ele skill? and whats air? air magic? ELE SKILL! im clearly a w/mo hence the whole healing breeze thing
ressurection is better then the sig IMO cause i can use it multiple times, cause again, theres alot of dumb people in the game and i have to revive them.
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Dec 23, 2007, 04:24 AM // 04:24
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#22
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Emo Goth Italics
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Originally Posted by chris10188
ok rush is junk, im in no hurry to get anywhere
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its a cancel stance so you dont get wtfpwnt by frenzy
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healing breeze is the ONLY thing that keeps me alive cause the stupid healers are always healing dumb mages that think there tanks[and theres always 1 in the party]
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trust me, healing sig is alot better and healing breeze is easy to backfire
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isent shock an ele skill? and whats air? air magic? ELE SKILL! im clearly a w/mo hence the whole healing breeze thing
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you can change your profession later in the game
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Dec 23, 2007, 04:52 AM // 04:52
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#23
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Academy Page
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ya but thats LATER in the game, im like 7 missions in, nothing close to ascention
besides, healing sig only gives.. 100 hp, around there, and healing breeze gives me +7 regen with no deterent of + damage taken to me
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Dec 23, 2007, 04:54 AM // 04:54
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#24
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Guild: None
Profession: W/
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Originally Posted by chris10188
ok rush is junk, im in no hurry to get anywhere
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Rush is like one of the best cancel-stances. Granted you don't really need it in PvE
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healing breeze is the ONLY thing that keeps me alive cause the stupid healers are always healing dumb mages that think there tanks[and theres always 1 in the party]
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Don't make groups with other people because they're running incredibly bad skill bars (like yours). Healing Signet is the best self-heal for a warrior, you should NEVER have any healing prayers for normal play
NEVER EVER
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isent shock an ele skill? and whats air? air magic? ELE SKILL! im clearly a w/mo hence the whole healing breeze thing
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Which is more fail. Healing Breeze won't save you from anything dangerous. Get that stupid skill off your bar now
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ressurection is better then the sig IMO cause i can use it multiple times, cause again, theres alot of dumb people in the game and i have to revive them.
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Use heroes, or if you don't have heroes then use henchman. Good heroes/henchman are better than 80% of the Guild Wars PvE players.
And don't tell me henchman are stupid because they have far better skillbars than your and most other players.
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Dec 23, 2007, 05:30 AM // 05:30
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#25
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Hall Hero
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: California Canada/BC
Guild: STG Administrator
Profession: Mo/
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You ppl are confusing this person but moriz is right all you need is sever,gash.final thrust and possibly bulls charge or charge.You could play riposte Warrior with gladiator defence.
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healing breeze is the ONLY thing that keeps me alive cause the stupid healers are always healing dumb mages that think there tanks[and theres always 1 in the party]
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Don't do this use healing breeze alway use your healing signet you only lose -40 armour for a few sec it is nothing to worry about.Final Thrust is almost as good as an elite in itself.Don't forget how powerfull the old Paladin premade was with it.
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And don't tell me henchman are stupid because they have far better skillbars than your and most other players.
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I have seen better skill bars than what Stefan uses and if this person want to use a hard res let him.
Last edited by Age; Dec 23, 2007 at 05:33 AM // 05:33..
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Dec 23, 2007, 11:05 AM // 11:05
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#26
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Guild: None
Profession: W/
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Originally Posted by Age
I have seen better skill bars than what Stefan uses
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Yes so have I but that doesn't mean most players in the game use better bars. Stefan has some adrenaline and energy attacks and healing signet. That instantly makes it better than most warriors in the game
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Dec 23, 2007, 11:25 AM // 11:25
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#27
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Hall Hero
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: California Canada/BC
Guild: STG Administrator
Profession: Mo/
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Stefan has adrenaline does he not from what this says.Stefan
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Dec 23, 2007, 11:25 AM // 11:25
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#28
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Academy Page
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my brain hurts reading all this, you are all just flaming me for stating my opinion,, your not even helping me, atleast some people gave me info i could use, like a build or usefull skills to consider, every one else just said DONT use this and that and im wrong for thinking healing breeze helps my style of play
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Dec 23, 2007, 11:36 AM // 11:36
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#29
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Feb 2006
Profession: W/
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People are stuck in there ways.
You can play whatever you like in PvE, but when you ask for a good build on this forum people will give a good build, the best possible. Your build is by far from the best, thus people are telling you to change it, you don't have to take their advice if you only want to have fun , but if you want to be as effective as possible then use the builds people suggest.
~A Leprechaun~
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Dec 23, 2007, 12:33 PM // 12:33
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#30
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: :D:D
Profession: D/W
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Originally Posted by chris10188
my brain hurts reading all this, you are all just flaming me for stating my opinion,, your not even helping me, atleast some people gave me info i could use, like a build or usefull skills to consider, every one else just said DONT use this and that and im wrong for thinking healing breeze helps my style of play
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they have been suggesting. i have no idea what you have been reading and why your brain hurts just by seeing pixels on your monitor.
Yes, for sword use this:
Sever/gash and final thrust healsig
Axe: Evis/executioner
Edit: Healing breeze is bad because the amount it heals for is not worth the cost - because 10E for a warrior is very costly. investing in healing prayers reduces your effectiveness as you then cant invest in other, more useful skills such as Watch yourself etc.
think about it 7-8 pips recharge is what, 14-16 hp a second. heal signet heals for about 100 in two seconds - do the math.
Healing breeze - 10E
Healing Signet - FREE
Last edited by Turtle222; Dec 23, 2007 at 12:37 PM // 12:37..
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Dec 23, 2007, 02:03 PM // 14:03
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#31
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Academy Page
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ok ok ill remove healing breeze
should i use FGJ? seems battles never last long enough to get any use out of it
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Watch yourself!
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Shields up!
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[current build]
evis
penetrating attack
exec
watch yourself
FGJ
frenzy
res
healing sig
strength -5
axe-11+3
tactics- 10+1
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Dec 23, 2007, 02:48 PM // 14:48
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#32
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Domain of Broken Game Mechanics
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Giving a newbie healsig and frenzy is irresponsible but amusing.
Penetrating attack = fail. Bring dismember or dblow.
The superior axe rune is almost certainly a bad idea, especially if you're bringing frenzy+healsig and barely know the game.
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Dec 23, 2007, 03:05 PM // 15:05
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#33
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Boston
Guild: We D Shot Your Stances [GODS]
Profession: A/W
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Why would you have frenzy in PvE, where the entire mob would be hitting you? You would have no chance to use frenzy at all. It's more of a PvP thing isn't it, where generally the frontline is ignored and foes aim for the mid/backline? The only option considerable for a IAS in PvE would be Flail since foes wouldn't kite from you, and if they do, you can cancel with sprint or rush, but too bad OP only has Prophecies.
Heres what I would use:
Axe Mastery 12 + 1 + 1
Tactics 12 + 1
Strength 3
1. Cleave
2. Cyclone Axe
3. Dismember
4. Executioner's Strike
5. Optional
6. "Watch Yourself!"
7. Healing Signet
8. Res Signet
Cleave over Eviscerate because its PvE. The spammability of the attack is more useful to the high amount of foes you encounter in PvE than a large spike on a single enemie.
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Dec 23, 2007, 03:19 PM // 15:19
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#34
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Desert Nomad
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IAS = 50% more damage, so also in PvE it's useful ..
Frenzy is good enough, just don't rush in with frenzy, but wait for the activation when the mobs aren't hitting on you.
Use rush as cancel when the damage adds up
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Dec 23, 2007, 03:34 PM // 15:34
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#35
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Academy Page
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i would use frenzy because its my only IAS , a duh
Burst Cancel
"Giving a newbie healsig and frenzy is irresponsible but amusing."
if frenzy+heal sig is for newbs, tell me what i should use instead
ac1inferno
i know evis is for single enemies and not groups, thats what im aiming for, damage on a single enemy
if i wanted AoE i wouldent be a warrior, i would be a nuker
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Dec 23, 2007, 04:23 PM // 16:23
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#36
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Boston
Guild: We D Shot Your Stances [GODS]
Profession: A/W
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chris10188
i would use frenzy because its my only IAS , a duh
ac1inferno
i know evis is for single enemies and not groups, thats what im aiming for, damage on a single enemy
if i wanted AoE i wouldent be a warrior, i would be a nuker
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You don't really need a IAS in PvE. Its not a must have. And I don't know what you mean by AoE, but I would use Cleave over Eviscerate because Cleave is fast-paced due to its low adrenaline allowing you to change targets more quickly, but still being able kill single targets at fast rates. Combined with Cyclone Axe, it is recharged at an astounding rate, increasing the ability to deal high damage attacks more frequently, resulting in more kills.
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Dec 23, 2007, 04:32 PM // 16:32
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#37
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island
Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm]
Profession: W/E
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Originally Posted by ac1inferno
You don't really need a IAS in PvE. Its not a must have. And I don't know what you mean by AoE, but I would use Cleave over Eviscerate because Cleave is fast-paced due to its low adrenaline allowing you to change targets more quickly, but still being able kill single targets at fast rates. Combined with Cyclone Axe, it is recharged at an astounding rate, increasing the ability to deal high damage attacks more frequently, resulting in more kills.
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A 33% IAS equals 50% more damage and adrenaline gain.
There is no one skill that can do more for you as a warrior.
True, it may not be 'necessary' for PvE, but you can also beat PvE with a blank skillbar and hench.
For NM Prophecies, Frenzy is fine - nothing really hits too hard, tbh. You don't have the double-damage bosses and all that.
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Dec 23, 2007, 04:52 PM // 16:52
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#38
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Academy Page
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AoE is area of affect, hitting more then 1 monster at a time
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Dec 23, 2007, 06:34 PM // 18:34
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#39
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Boston
Guild: We D Shot Your Stances [GODS]
Profession: A/W
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chris10188
AoE is area of affect, hitting more then 1 monster at a time
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lol I know what AoE is. I just didn't know what you meant when you said you didn't need AoE. The only AoE I see in the build I gave you is Cyclone Axe, and thats to build up adrenaline quickly by hitting multiple foes instead of having to rely on a IAS.
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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
A 33% IAS equals 50% more damage and adrenaline gain.
There is no one skill that can do more for you as a warrior.
True, it may not be 'necessary' for PvE, but you can also beat PvE with a blank skillbar and hench.
For NM Prophecies, Frenzy is fine - nothing really hits too hard, tbh. You don't have the double-damage bosses and all that.
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Doing 50% more damage is nice, but its not worth taking double damage for it. Also, more adrenaline gain isn't necessary if Cleave is used over Eviscerate because its a low adrenaline attack skill. Cyclone Axe is enough to gain adrenaline so having a IAS that makes you take double damage is not needed. I consider Cleave to be more effective in PvE than Eviscerate, because your enemies often die quickly and a big spike of damage is not needed as often as in PvP.
Last edited by ac1inferno; Dec 23, 2007 at 07:20 PM // 19:20..
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Dec 23, 2007, 07:40 PM // 19:40
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#40
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Academy Page
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well ya know what, maby im disagreeing with you cause im pissed that i baught evis already, before i read what you said, for 8k... so THERE
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